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a fascinating window into how foreign policy interest groups operate and has obscured the central question is hagel an ideal candidate to lead the department of defense and where is the department of defense going in the future. joining me is glenn greenwald, and we have the former senior adviser to the united nations tour on executions. spencer ackerman, the national security blog for the danger room and elise jordan who worked under condoleezza rice. i will admit, i did not realize chuck hagel was a polarizing figure until this whole thing went down. were you surprised by the reaction to hagel? >> in jewish day school we are taught that chuck hagel will come and drink our blood. so i guess it is not surprising, but the manufactured outrage of this has been just disgusting to see. you saw in a clip that you played, the audio clip, the very next thing he says discusses the contradictory and the counterproductive elements that advocates for israel often engage in, that seems they are now demonstrating right now. that hagel talks about the interest of israel. >> i think there's a strain in w
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